How about Pontiac Monday?

"Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS" (corey-cc97)
10/27/2013 at 23:02 • Filed to: Pontiac Monday

Let us never forget how the government has oppressed its people by killing Pontiac. Let's make tomorrow Pontiac Monday. Never forget the company that shouldn't have died.

DISCUSSION (13)

Just wear your damn mask... > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
10/27/2013 at 23:17

Pontiac died long before GM pulled the plug in 2008. Pontiac was once a great brand, but by the time things ended nothing of value was lost.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > Just wear your damn mask...
10/27/2013 at 23:22

Doesn't mean we can't mourn the loss of Pontiac.

Bandit > Just wear your damn mask...
10/27/2013 at 23:23

... and I am still sad.

Just wear your damn mask... > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
10/27/2013 at 23:25

We can mourn, but it should have died years ago.

desertdog5051 > Just wear your damn mask...
10/27/2013 at 23:37

I do not understand your dislike. Pontiac has a long heritage of great cars. They should have shuttered Olds... Wait, they did. And they both have a much better heritage than Buick. 'esplain that to me, Lucy.

desertdog5051 > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
10/27/2013 at 23:38

Done.

NinetyQ > Just wear your damn mask...
10/27/2013 at 23:38

You say that, but you have to admit that GM and Lutz had some excellent plans for a resurgence. You've seen what happened to the remaining brands. Imagine if similar good fortune befell Pontiac!

Just wear your damn mask... > desertdog5051
10/27/2013 at 23:54

What dislike? I loved Pontiac. Still do. But Pontiac ceased being Pontiac when they stopped putting Pontiac engines in their vehicles. Once the corporate (Olds) 307 and 403 motors started appearing, it was only a matter of time. The only reason - the ONLY reason - Pontiac stuck around was that it was easier to badge engineer them than it was Oldsmobiles. Olds took a gamble with Aurora and lost.

The premise of this thread is flawed. By the time the Government told GM to pull the plug, Pontiac had been in a vegetative state for at least 25 years, and it is was put there by GM.

Just wear your damn mask... > NinetyQ
10/27/2013 at 23:58

The only reason the other divisions were able to survive was that Pontiac got the axe. The best of Lutz's plans would not have turned Pontiac around because it was simply too far gone.

desertdog5051 > Just wear your damn mask...
10/28/2013 at 00:00

You make valid points. I cannot construct a logical defense. Only an emotional one. My heart will always lie with Pontiac and Olds.

NinetyQ > Just wear your damn mask...
10/28/2013 at 00:05

Not necessarily true. The government decided that the plan wasn't viable, but they've succeeded nicely with the rest of their brands. If Pontiac had continued as a low-volume enthusiast brand, they may have been just fine. They likely would have never posted massive profits, but the possibilities are just that, possibilities. The other divisions would have survived with or without Pontiac, I think.

Just wear your damn mask... > NinetyQ
10/28/2013 at 06:55

There was no realistic chance, given the economics of the time and the (not so) recent history of the brand that Pontiac was going to be magically turned into a low-volume performance division. The low-volume performance vehicles they offered in the final years (GTO, G8, Solstice) were way too little, way too late.

Just wear your damn mask... > desertdog5051
10/28/2013 at 06:57

I understand. Not to put a final nail in the subject, but the last "real" Pontiac that I lusted for was the '89 Turbo Trans Am, and that had a Buick engine. I lusted for the G8, but not because it was a Pontiac.